Re: AVR specs explained - need more power?
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Didn’t realize you were in such a big room. What are the dimensions?
My family room is 18 x 18 and 9 ft in height and the M2 + EP 500 fills it nicely. The room is divided into two areas with a TV area is on the right and a ping pong table on the left. The left wall is almost completely glass. I was expecting all kinds of acoustic problems but it sounds great.
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Re: AVR specs explained - need more power?
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Well in that case M2s might be a little thin. That room is the bigger then the foot print of most houses.
Do you want to fill the whole thing or just a part of it?
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Canes has 100s in the big room. He is A-ok. Minorc has 80s in the smaller room and is wondering about an upgrade. He was first wondering about seperates/receiver upgrade. His room is in the pics further back. Confusing thread... Minorc has a center channel laying on the floor in a picture.. Not sure what he’s upto but should be interesting to see where he ends up.
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Ya, I was getting the feeling we were talking about two different rooms after I went back and looked at the pictures posted by Minorc.
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Trevor, what’s wrong with transitioning from towers to bookshelves + sub if the room size will support It? I’d almost always recommend that combo for anyone who didn’t want to have a separate amp for at least the front 3. Each component is being used to its fullest this way.
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Nothing wrong with it. In fact you are 100% right. Just he already has nice towers + Dirac. He could make his towers sound like anything he wants now. Full control over the response. The bookshelves + sub route is excellent. I just wouldnt want to have bookshelves as mains if the room allowed towers. Something special about full range channels in surround. Dirac allowed me to do this with all 11channels and 2 subs playing simultaneouly. Sounds pretty real and the extra air over 8Khz makes you feel like your in “their” room. ( My room is full treated so I can get away with it -not recommended in hard rooms.) Sure bass falls off around 30hz, but I just dont wanna upgrade my subs quite yet.... too many other things fighting with my bank account. Lol.
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Think the idea is to off load as much of the low end as possible to the sub. That allows the receiver to use it’s power budget for the mids and highs. I.e set the receiver small speaker crossover point as high as you dare. The low end of towers in this case goes to waste (and may even work against you).
Of course with a receiver or amp that doesn’t top out ... full range towers can be awesome.
Last edited by rrlev; 12/19/20 09:22 PM. Reason: Spec which crossover
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Hey Gents,
Apologies.
My centre channel is now on stands, off the floor, has been since March. I want to keep a full range tower as my mains, not only for visuals but for vinyl listening which I'm also now into. Haven't figured out if I can add a sub for 2 channel vinyl listening yet, nor have I figured I needed one.
Guess I'm hunting for the next "wow factor" item.
Last edited by minorc; 12/22/20 12:22 AM.
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Unless you are rocking a super duper cartridge and arm, your system is unlikely to produce anything below 30Hz. M80s will get you close and M100s will definitely reproduce even lower.
Do you really need the center? Maybe you can answer that by experimenting with a v4 front when you receive it.
Last edited by Mojo; 12/22/20 12:29 AM.
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