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Before my v4 system, I was using the M80, 150 and QS8 v2. The high end on that system was brittle and sounded harsh. V4 is a different ballgame. It's very airy, light and dispersive. It can also go louder than the v2 before breaking up. Mostly the difference is in the v4 tweeter with its slight tapered horn, longer throw and die cast aluminum faceplate.

Having said that, there are two people I know of on this board who prefer the v2 tweeter over the v4. One likes his M22v2 better than the v4. The other may start coming around to the v4 sound.

The v4 sound is seductive and very balanced right across the whole audio range.

The only thing dual mids and dual tweeters will do is allow the speakers to go louder with less distortion - and maybe disappear less better. I really don't think you need any louder than M60 or 660.

That's a great tune. I'm listening to the re-mastered version on the M5OW in my living room and the air around the cymbals is very nice! No EQ whatsoever. Such air didn't exist on v2. It was more grainy.

https://open.spotify.com/track/6RvJigkrHaxStGN2shMJ7h?si=vlQdtNFnTqe1btMlbs3RdA

I just listened to that tune on my actives. The highs sound the same. The image of the cymbals is deeper into the soundstage and tighter though.

Man, you're making it much harder to do the wrong thing just because!
Seriously though, thanks for all the info.

Cork,

Isn't it great having so many choices?

Jeff

Jeff_in_the_D - it's killin' me!

The problem is, if you get the 60s, you'll be wondering what you're missing not having 660s. But if you get the 660s, you'll be wondering just how much better they are than the 60s. So you really ought to get both to compare.

Cork,
If I hadn’t already researched and purchased floor standers for my 2 channel living room system I would have seriously considered the LFR 660 or 880s. The 1100 are just too much for my space. The active version designs are such an attractive alternative to passive designs! They have piqued my interest for sure.
Little or no opportunity to hear and compare is very unfortunate though.
Not sure I’m brave enough to take that leap.
I have wanted to drive up to Dwight at some point. Perhaps when the current situation subsides it will be possible to make it up there. Beautiful locale in Ontario.
Good luck with your dilemma!

Jeff

>> So you really ought to get both to compare.
I've been seriously thinking about it!

>> I have wanted to drive up to Dwight at some point.
Funny you mentioned that, I was just looking it up on Google maps this morning. Roughly 10 hrs direct; but 6+6 if I stop and see my son in Rochester. Very doable as soon as they'll let us in again.

I know I'm making more of this than there needs to be, but I'm not in a hurray and I'm having fun. The sample should arrive in a day or two (they would have been here today, but we got a boatload of snow dropped on us); so that'll amp up the anticipation and fun factor even more.

Awesome! That’s the right way to do it!

When we were last at the factory about 4 years back, we had the chance to listen to the LFRs in the Axiom A/B testing room with non-LFR versions. At the time I was also considering swapping out our M60s at that point for newer versions and wood veneer but since the LFRs came out, we thought, maybe we could swap the M60s for the LFR versions.

Simple consideration for size; do NOT buy a speaker that is bigger for the room than what is needed. A person may be drawn to the general bigger is better trap, but when it comes to sound, you will find it VERY hard to place a large speaker in a small or not adequate space. Our HT room is a very near example of this. I cannot quite get as broad a sweet spot as i would like with the M60s because we sit 11 feet from them. I need about another 2 feet to get that broader sweet spot.
Now if i had M22s, it would be easier to move those around. M80s are completely out of the question because the placement wouldn't be any different than for the M60s and given the room volume, i don't need the extra output.

The point of looking at the LFRs was because of the way they diffuse sound more. Yes if i figured i was certain this could make audio nirvana i would consider it more but the cost is a bit prohibitive for the gains that i expect it could bring. For me i just don't feel it's worth that extra cost, but if i were just buying Axioms today, i'd probably go for the LFRs in that room.

If i can find the thread from 4 years back where i presented my thoughts on the LFRs i'll post it here (unless Mojo finds it first).