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Re: One pair or two pairs of M3 ceiling speakers?
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They measured exceptionally well at 10 degrees under the listener axis. (Mojo does a cartwheel. ) Wow. Just wow. So this proves I wasn't imagining things. I look forward to reviewing all the charts later. Thanks, Trevor.
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Re: One pair or two pairs of M3 ceiling speakers?
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Ok Mojo. Send in a bit. Yep, rrlev. Going to likely go upside down with mid and woofer above. Tests first for sure. If you beat me to it please share what you find. Everything tells me it will be A-Ok based on messing with raised towers in an old setup. The image stuck to the tweeter. But readin bout skinning a dear and skinning a dear just arent the same thing. Oh! Btw, mount your ceiling M3OW to ceiling tweeters in towards middle of room. Woofers to walls.
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Re: One pair or two pairs of M3 ceiling speakers?
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How do you mount them upside down or to the ceiling?
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On the M3's and M3ow's Axiom will put in inserts so you can mount them on FMBs or FMCBs but you need to request them up front. With the M5's & M5ow's I assume you can do the same ...
All the bookshelves come standard with a single insert in the back which I think is for a FMB. But I'd verify it's use with Axiom before using it. Especially the M5 given its weight (don't want to find your M5 on the floor because the insert worked its way though the ply).
I'd imagine that Axiom would do this also if you want to invert your speaker. I'm going to ask if inverting it is ok sound wise. The only other problem I can think of is that dust might enter the ports since they are facing up. That might be solved with some AT material.
Another way to approach this is by putting some screws in the back of the on-wall and figuring out some sort of bracket.
Note: that axiom will put in binding posts on the M3ow's when inserts are requested for FMBs and you loose the T bracket. It might be possible to keep the T if you pass on the binding posts ... another question for Axiom. Then you can just use the T as a connector and still have the option of mounting it the other way. I personally would not use the T if flush mounting to the ceiling. If I decide to do that I'll design a bracket ...
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Oh! Btw, mount your ceiling M3OW to ceiling tweeters in towards middle of room. Woofers to walls. If I use FMBs I was thinking that you'd want to aim them ports pointing toward the ceiling ... which would put them the other way ... hmmmm ... this will be an experiment.
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If you mount the m5ow with the tweeter at 10º below ear level will the sides/back of the couch affect the sound of the midrange drivers if they are below the top of the couch?
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Re: One pair or two pairs of M3 ceiling speakers?
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If the M5OW are used as rears, the 10 degree tweeter thing doesn't matter. It matters for front soundstage virtualization only.
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These would be for side surrounds.
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Aye. That there be needin' some 'sperimentation, laddie.
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Oh! Btw, mount your ceiling M3OW to ceiling tweeters in towards middle of room. Woofers to walls. If I use FMBs I was thinking that you'd want to aim them ports pointing toward the ceiling ... which would put them the other way ... hmmmm ... this will be an experiment. Ahhh, I see. In that case I would say you’re fine. Was thinking you were mounting sideways. Wont those stick down 13” or so? If you have the height I guess all good.
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