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In retrospect do you think resilient channel would have been a better option? If I did resilient again it would be single-ended ... no clips Kind of feel like Etna ... "No Capes"
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That's what I ended up going with, RC-8 resilient channel. Originally planned on clips and furring channel but the adjustments to the doors expanding the walls 3" out was too much. 1.75 inches is a lot easier to accommodate. We did a sound test this weekend. I turned up a movie and music to reference level and sat upstairs to see how loud and how much sound transferred through the subfloor and hardwood flooring, there's no insulation in the ceiling right now because we are finishing wiring. The sound wasn't overbearing although it could obviously be heard. It wasn't loud enough to interrupt normal conversation speaking levels and this was directly overhead of the speakers and sub. I feel like with what we have planned the sound will be reduced to a minimum and what we primarily need is the mass to stop the lower frequencies as they were the most notable.
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Canes ... think you saved yourself a lot time, money, and headaches with that decision ... What I'm doing is just not worth it. If only I knew what I know now ....
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The sheer number of articles and forums on the topic is almost overwhelming. Although I did see a few comments from drywall installers that were completely inaccurate regarding installation. One interesting experiment I came across used interior/exterior carpet glue instead of green glue and the tests had better results for the carpet glue. Apparently the indoor/outdoor carpet glue stays tacky and doesn't harden just like green glue. If the experiment were accurate the carpet glue is significantly cheaper than green glue.
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The sheer number of articles and forums on the topic is almost overwhelming. Although I did see a few comments from drywall installers that were completely inaccurate regarding installation. One interesting experiment I came across used interior/exterior carpet glue instead of green glue and the tests had better results for the carpet glue. Apparently the indoor/outdoor carpet glue stays tacky and doesn't harden just like green glue. If the experiment were accurate the carpet glue is significantly cheaper than green glue. I’ve seen some interesting claims … like using toothpaste as a substitute for thermal paste. Testing that suggestion out is just a bit of time and zero money. But testing out carpet glue … that’s one costly experiment.
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The carpet glue was interesting but the experiment wasn’t in a controlled lab. He simply measured sound volume at different frequencies. If I had a small room I might be willing to try it but the sheer size of my room there is no way I’d be willing to make that leap. Watched another series made by a physicist that said green glue was a farce too. He was essentially saying the same thing. That any non-drying liquid would work just as well. He said regular caulk would do the same thing but didn’t actually conduct any tests.
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Well money already spent (green glue) and I’m not really 100% sure if it bought me a lot isolation wise. I know the claims but even those are only a point or two on the STC chart … the decision to go with it was really a % cost thing … not that much in the overall cost structure and if I didn’t do it I’d always regret it if I was not 1000% happy isolation wise.
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That's actually my fear. I'll get finished and it won't be enough.
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Enjoy the Music. Trust your ears. Laugh at Folks Who Claim to Know it All.
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