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Sorry 2x,

if I said something to offend it was unintentional.
I was just trying to keep the discussion on topic.
Constantly deviating from the topic point we agreed to, was starting to feel like it was being done intentionally to confuse the issue.
That was frustrating to me because if I allowed it to continue we’d never be able to move on.

I was not criticizing you and I apologize if it was taken in that light

2x, I’ve read through this again looking for where I might have insulted you or criticized you personally

The only places I found anything close to even an attempt or implication of a personal insult/criticism were in your posts like:
“ Perhaps you are susceptible to democrat/socialist/administrative state talking points” or
“ Just because you're marching in step doesn't mean you're heading in the right direction.”

These suggested I was susceptible to ideology and walking in step …
from your point of view probably an insult of weak mindedness and not thinking for myself.
For me, it was very helpful insight into your environment and thinking. Implications to be ignored.

I’m having trouble finding any personal insult or criticism I might have made about you.

Perhaps your upset that I called your post “meaningless prose”,
But at worst I consider this a criticism of content and not of person.
If it was something else it would be helpful, to me, to know what.

How sad for Canada.

2x6 - Exactly. Congrats to this so called "forum" for chasing away yet another valued member. The sad part is the authoritarians are too filled with self importance to understand that thinking people will just leave, as 2x6 has also now done.

The truckers are fighting for their, and other's, freedoms. If you don't agree with 2x6 on this, you could have just left him alone. You couldn't do it. And he is now gone, too.

There was a time when this forum had 100's of posts every day, and it was a family.

Those days are long gone.

Craig,
Glad to hear from you again. Must be a silent lurker here.

Is that your idea of freedom, if you don't agree with a controversial post just shut up?
If you don't want alternate viewpoints you shouldn't post. And for what it's worth, I never saw 2x6 say he didn't welcome the exchange.

It's all been done.... before!

https://open.spotify.com/track/1VBRdl1sT4DGckQaTzKEB9?si=544c63a0b8ff4a6c

This is a reply to "Cork." There is a function here called "ignore." I have exercised this function in regards to you. That being said, perhaps you need to take under advisement critical thinking skills. I stated that those who were insulting 2x6 "could" have just ignored him instead of chasing him away. Note that I didn't make a demand, nor even say "should." The word was "could," as in a choice. The choice was made to demean 2x6, and he has left the forum. He and I shared some information from the NIH that demonstrated that he was being quite accurate in his assessment of the situation in the USA. He graciously responded in an affirmative manner about the information, while also informing that he was "pretty much done" with forums.

2x6 has made his choice to leave, and it was for the same reason dozens of others have. Fortunately for Ian, there are lively, friendly places for Axiom owners to chat. Ian has neither the time, nor inclination, to follow this forum.

In this case, 2x6 was demonstrating a happy, grateful post about what he sees as people fighting for their freedom. The responses were, despite what the responders insisted was different, a direct attack on 2x6 and his position. The people 2x6 was championing were called "deadbeats," and the conversation devolved from that point.

This attacking style started here in 2005, and the forum has declined ever since. It has not hurt the Axiom business model, this decline. All that happened was a lot of people who used to love coming to a friendly place have gone elsewhere.

Enjoy what is left of this forum.

Let's stay civil ...

We live in a new world. One where beliefs do not need to be proven since everyone knows they are true. If these "known to be true" beliefs are challenged (especially if proof can be provided) then it's acceptable to counter by:

• Just repeat your belief as loud as you can and as many times as you can.
• point to disproven sources
• present a whole lot of unrelated topics in “support” of that belief
• confuse the issue with BS …

if that does not work then:

• make accusations
• start calling them names
• assign labels and
• assassination character.

So far I think I have been labeled (in my words): a "Weak Minded individual" who "Blindly follows others" and an "Authoritarian" who is "filled with self importance"

It's actually kind of funny ... it's obvious there is about as much real thought placed in these labels as there is support provided for the beliefs presented. Funny if it wasn't so dangerous.


P.S. Craig:

• this is the Water Cooler. Discussions like this is what it is here for.
• 2x started this thread and I’m sure he knew it was going to be political and provocative.
• we mutually agreed to debate under one condition we laser focused on each narrowly defined topic
• We are adults ... I'd expect we can accept a little discomfort if an argument does not hold water
• no one is being driven away ... I like 2x

Also, IMHO, only a child would stamp off, taking his toy's, telling everyone he's "not going to play with them anymore" at the slightest sign of discomfort.

On that front I think we should start a new policy. If we are going to have a discussion on a sensitive topic we should start a new thread in the water cooler and append "(political)" to the title. This would allow people to avoid reading stuff that might upset them ... anyone agree?

Trever,
Like the new picture!