Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Technical Questions Onkyo Receiver making a click noise randomly

Ha! Let us know how that VP100 sounds.

I will once I get it. Still waiting for the center channel to ship.

I don't want to influence you, so I won't tell you how you'll like it so much, you'll wish you had the 160.

Lol

So I received and have been using the VP100OW with my M5OWs for about a week now and I think it sounds great and blends well. I think I need to move the M5s about a foot lower on the wall for a little better sound at the main listening position, but I love the sound these speakers put out and the look of them. Right now they are set so the bottom woofer is at ear level, and sitting back about 8 feet from them. Axiom knows how to make great looking on wall speakers.

Also I think I might just keep this Onkyo receiver, as I havent noticed the clicking anymore when in use. 90% of the use is streaming shows and it doesn't click when doing that and music only if its loud. I would buy another receiver, but im looking at spending almost double the money for one with similar features and wattage.

With that said, i was looking at the QS10s to put on the back wall right behind the couch that is up against the backwall at some point, however I noticed the FAQ for the QS10s, it recommends a receiver with at least 100 watts of power. This Onkyo only does 90 watts at 8 ohms driving two channels with less per channel the more you have hooked up. Im guessing if I keep this receiver, I should consider the QS8s instead?

Keep the QS10s … big improvement over the 8s IMO … the 10W difference is not going to make a much of a difference …
If the receiver has pre-outs then off load the front at least the front 3 … the surrounds don’t usually get that loud.
If you like to play things loud then you’d need something with some headroom and/or much more continuous power.
This is where an ADA1000 or better makes a big difference.

Yeah there are no Pre outs on this receiver. Its a small space as it is though so it doesn't take much to get loud in the room. Thank you

Just looked up the spec's on your Onkyo. Here's the way I interpret it:

To me it looks like the 90W out at 8ohms is taken by a compromise between voltage and current.
To get that power into 8 ohms the amp's supply voltage has dropped significantly and at this point it's literally out of juice.

The headroom quoted 120W at 8 ohms gives me ~31Vrms while the 90W figure is at 26.8 ...
To me it looks like most of the specs quoted here are mis-leading.

Perhaps all the receivers today do this. Just that this one gives me enough info to understand what's happening
Personally, I'd dump this receiver ...

I'm looking at my last post ... as I mis-stated what I was trying to say. Must have forgotten to take my meds as that third line is stating just the opposite of what I was intending ... Power wise the voltage has to drop on max continuous power to have headroom. As dynamically you need to have a higher voltage to get that extra dynamic power. What I should have said is that the headroom is insignificant (i.e. the voltage drop is not significant enough) and is quoted, IMO, to present the higher number (s).

Think in a day or two I'm going to start a discussion on evaluating receiver specs and how to read them with an eye on real world performance. I've made attempts at this before but I'm still refining how to do it. Anyway ... just need to find some time to write up the first post ...

That would be an awesome post. My limited understanding is that an 11.1 or 5.1 channel receiver that's rated for 80W/ch, 2 channels driven, only has 160W of total power to split between 11 or 5 channels simultaneously. That was something I didn't know when I bought my AVR last year. But as someone who's probably never used more than 1W/ch ever, it probably doesn't matter in my use case.

Some of my fondest memories were at my uncle's house, with his McIntosh amps driving his McIntosh loudspeakers to ear bleeding levels...and the needles never moving beyond 5W.