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Without speaker acoustic disappearance, the illusion falls apart.

That review is for the M100v3. The v4 has the OMG! tweeter and multiple other improvements to the M100's polar response curves.

With regard to the scorecard, you might get more intelligence from what the reviewer did and did not write.

One tip regarding the M5: experiment with stand height before committing to a design or purchase. I, and at least two others on this board, have found dropping the tweeters at least 6" below the ears results in holographic soundstage and imaging with no speakers to be heard.

One more thing: there are members on this board who have made their M80s and M100s disappear even though I could not.

Hambrabi, there is no excitement in dispatching the evil dead with high tech weapons.

Yes, the two up top are combat-ready Shanghai double daggers.

That review of the M100 makes me cringe. B.S. words like air, attack, decay, inner resolution, and tonality are really just words for frequency response, and the rest is about the acoustic environment of the room.

A straight listening window and a gently sloping sound power directivity index is a good enough toolkit for most of us to separate the wheat from the chaff, and (the impossible to find) frequency response at 85 db, 95 dB, and 105 dB should also be enough to determine whether it will fill a room with sound.

Speaker reviews don't need to be more than 500 words, and half of that can be about the manufacturer, model line up, placement against competitors, sensitivity/efficiency, and feature set. If it's more than 500 words, it is written for entertainment and commerce, not for the consumer.

The holy hosannas I heard out of the M100s were large, realistic, with cherubs nicely rendered in a tall, wide, deep sound field. Unfortunately, I could see the cherubs exiting from the M100s.

With the M5, the hosannas were smaller, less real, with the cherubs appearing from dark singularities forming in a holographic soundfield behind, to the side, above and forward of the M5s.

One setup I’ve always fantasized about and might be an option in this case….

M5Hp with dual ep500 or ep600 as the stands for the m5s. Select 500 for lower tweeter height or 600 for higher tweeter height.m relative to your MLP ear height. Apply some manufactured or homegrown decoupling to the bottom of m5 and against floor at base of the subs too, as mojo described above and voila. Crossover the m5 to the subs and relieve the m5 of low frequency duty reducing distortion and improving godly holographics.

Why have wooden boxes that could resonate when you could have stereo subs the bring true offerings to the sanctuary. Baptize those hosannas!

This would of course be in addition to your Rythmik subs. Apply proper dynamic high wattage overhead amplification and you’re set.

This setup alone could open a singularity. Use the volume knob to adjust the aperture size. If you’re not careful it may swallow your whole house. Like pulling your lip up over your head and swallowing an event horizon.

All kidding aside, it would kind of like be like having a 4 way speaker that is tuneable. I’m sure this idea is fraught with problems or acoustic malcontents perhaps.

Another thought in line with Hambrabi, I agree with thinking of open space as one volume of cubic space. I think that is good advice. Play with room acoustics and basic treatments. As I’ve been learning in my large open space, adding mass to the space helps and soft cushy things helps too such as thick carpets and underlay, cushions couches furniture etc. The room can always be improved.

Cool theatre plan and thoughts you have. Looking forward to seeing what you do end up going with.

Tyler, you may want to try building diffusers.

Totally. I’m doing the research and sifting through all the BS that is out there. We are looking at doing our great room this spring.

-Wood stove and hearth. ( we miss that alot from our old place )

-Paint

-Tongue and groove ceiling. ( could incorporate treatments up there as per Trevor, haven’t seen him around the forum in awhile. )

-Wood “ waynescotting” on walls up to 4/5 feet to compliment the hearth. Could incorporate treatments there as well.

-Id consider some decoupling and isolation for the towers too and the sub ( or subs after I get another ).

The heavy carpet and underlay was a tangible damping. As was adding a big recliner.

I feel like our floors are “excitable” a bit too. So looking for options to tame that as well. But that’s fully conjecture at this point.

I’m reasonably handy and have all the tools for lots of things so building treatments is totally possible. Open to suggestions.

I love all those ideas. I'll give you a suggestion. How about you adopt me and I'll help you figure it all out.

Sure. You’re in. Bring scotch, I’ll toss all the apple juice out with the children.

I don't drink. But I'll sniff and snort your scotch and live vicariously through you after you scarf it down. I like kids. And they like me.