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Re: 20 Year Old M80's Compared to Current Model
DJE4MSU #448252 12/16/24 06:04 PM
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Depends on how much you slump. Sitting upright they are a few inches below … slumped they are about ear level.

Re: 20 Year Old M80's Compared to Current Model
DJE4MSU #448253 12/16/24 06:12 PM
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In my rooms, the M2, M3, M5 image like holographic projectors from front to back if the tweeter is about 6" below ear level. The M50s are naturally about 3" below when I'm sitting and they are similarly good.


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Linearity and mid-woofers are over-rated
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DJE4MSU #448264 12/17/24 04:49 PM
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Neutral loudspeakers like the v.4's won't impose their own colorations on recordings. It's a miracle of science and manufacturing that such products are readily available to consumers. I'd be willing to bet that an M2 or M5 with EP500 will be more than a tonal match against the best from Dutch & Dutch, Genelec, Kii, Mesanovic, or Revel.

But if separation, soundstage, presence are what you're looking for, there's no getting around multichannel and going through a multichannel upmixer like Dolby Digital.

I didn't even know this was a thing until yesterday, but 9.1 audio with 5 front channels is probably the ne plus ultra of music playback according to Dr. Floyd Toole. So, how deep is your pocket book? smile

https://youtu.be/x4w33TTgRpE?t=60

https://www.dolby.com/about/support/guide/speaker-setup-guides/9.1.4-overhead-speaker-setup-guide/


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Re: 20 Year Old M80's Compared to Current Model
DJE4MSU #448265 12/17/24 10:18 PM
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Now that I've been mulling it over, the soundbar manufacturers are so close to destroying the home stereo market.

All it takes is an additional pair of wide left and wide right front satellites 50º from the sound bar to supplement the wireless surrounds and sub, and no one would go back to stereo pairs and their tethering to a single seated sweet spot.

If homeowners don't want that, there's plenty of mono "lifestyle" speakers to choose from. smile


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Re: 20 Year Old M80's Compared to Current Model
DJE4MSU #448268 12/18/24 10:32 PM
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Nope. Don't need any of that junk for music. Just a good room, two good speakers, good enough electronics, good speaker positioning, good MLP, good enough ears-brain.


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Still lovin me some old M80s smile


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Re: 20 Year Old M80's Compared to Current Model
DJE4MSU #448326 01/13/25 07:17 AM
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I have a pair of M22V2s in egg shell white, cute, which I use with an 8 watt per channel single end triode tube amp to test FM receivers. I use it with a giant SVS 20-39 subwoofer of approximately the same vintage. The M22V2s sound great. They are in my bedroom, a good sized and well damped room. Never heard the the M22V4s.


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