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A bit off topic, but I was wondering where you guys were hosting your pictures that you are using for your icons.

http://photobucket.com/

Some folks, myself included, use this place.

Are you going to put up a pic of that little one?

I'd just like to point out how it's *ok* for Moore to have his movie from his "point of view" yet the DMC is threating to lawsuit tv stations that run the Swiftboat add.

Thanks for the link. Yes, I've been viewing everyone's pictures with envy. So, I thought I'd get a picture of my little cutie up there to provide proof that an ugly guy can indeed produce a beautiful baby.

That thing about the DNC threatening stations is amazing stuff. It appears that they love free speech, except when it's used for something that they dislike. The truth of the matter is that they are scared, and justifiably so. Regardless of whether you believe what these guys have to say, there is now an issue out there directly questioning Kerry's credibility and truthfullness. If I were them, I would probably be equally panicked. If this doesn't go away, it's going to poison his campaign.

Not that I agree that this is ok, but the difference here is that Moore's medium was a movie that people pay to go see, as opposed to something that is being broadcast to everyone's home to be seen as part of their normal viewing.

I agree. There's a big distinction between an ad run as part of a political campaign and a movie one voluntarily pays to see.

Zarak, Pmbuko... You are totally right, of course. This is America, and people will be forced to see the "swift" ad since they cannot turn off their TV's or change the channel. Television is a plot by the Republican Party to force people to watch against his/her free will. And the $4,000,000 spent to advertise Mr. Moore's "documentry" on TV, Radio, Newspaper and on computer pop-ups IS free speech, where the "swift" $500,000 is against our constitutionally protected freedom against having to view commercials with which we disagree.

By the way, my last post WAS intended as humorous sarcasm... as an avowed Libertarian, I think all political speech is OK, and would have precisely ONE rule for campaign finance reform. That would be 100 % disclosure. You could give ALL you wanted to any candidate, but EACH candidate would have to list EACH donor, and amount. That way we people could decide what WE think about Candidate "A" getting $1 million from the NRA, and Candidate "B" getting $1 million from GreenPeace ... rebuttals welcomed ...

Lib's have some really great ideas, yet they scare me at the same time.

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I agree. There's a big distinction between an ad run as part of a political campaign and a movie one voluntarily pays to see.

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Oh how I knew that would be the response.

I wonder why discussions of Moore's film got such huge air time on all the mainstream news outlets, yet the swiftboat fellas ad is getting very little discussion. The only discussion about the ad seems to revolve around the ads funding and the backgrounds of the guys who slam Kerry. Nobody seems interested in examining the truthfulness of their claims - only in discrediting the source.

The media definitely leans left in this country - especially this year, it seems. How about that recent CNN "poll"? They asked, "Does this feel like an economic recovery to you?" Hilarious.