to much bass on m80 speakers
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Since I purchased my m80 speakers a few months ago I have had a problem with to much bass.Ive tried just about everything to solve this problem to no avail.Using a Radio Shack sound meter I found that I have a room node beetween 32hz and 40hz.I was told that a paremetric equalizer is the answer to this problem.Ebay has a vintage SAE 180 equalizer for around $70-$80.Does anybody out there know anything about it? Can it really help? I am really desperate for a solution at this point and would appreciate any help at this point. I really love the sound of these speakers otherwise.
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Re: to much bass on m80 speakers
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As you posted this in the stereo area I'm going under the assumption you have to much bass in a 2 channel set-up so talking crossover etc, won't do any good.
How close do you have the speakers placed to the wall? Have you tried pulling them forward etc? What do you have them hooked up to? I can make up a list of 20 things to look for but I think most will want more info.
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As mentioned in my post ive tried just about everything,moving speakers away from both back and side walls,moving them closer to back & side walls,placing them on stands etc etc.They are hooked up to a HK 3470 stereo reciever.I also tried using a graphic equalizer but that did not help because I couldnt home in on the room node frequency and it affected other areas of the speaker frequency response adversely.
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Asher7700,
How are you? Is the bass "boomy" or exaggerated?
What kind of music are you listening to? Not that this matters too much.
Tom
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For M60s I found I needed at least 2 feet between the back of the speaker and the rear wall before the bass sounded right. My understanding is that M80s need even more in some rooms.
How far have you pulled them out so far, and if you haven't tried >3 feet between speaker and any walls could you try ?
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Also, what is the room dimension (W*L*H)?
Are there any other environmental characteristics with the room? Also tell us about the sources you’re using and how they are connected.
Thanks!
Tom
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Asher.
Do you have the V-Max engaged on your reciever,if so that could account for the problem.
Rick
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Just a hunch from the information you provided.
http://www.axiomaudio.com/archives/roomacoustics.html Check it out.
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Thanks for the replies fellas.I apologize for my spelling.It was never one of my stong points.The size of my room is 13x21Height is 13 feet.I have the speakers placed along the long wall because of the furniture placement that my wife prefers(I'm really having a ot of flack from her because of the size of the speakers).The most i've had them from the back wall is around two feet.Can't do more then that because of,guess what,my wifes plans for our living room. I am using an HK 3470 rec. and using 12 gauge cables to connect to my speakers. I listen to classical and new age and am getting to much bass (not boom) in the 32hz to 40 hz area .I checked this out with my trusty sound meter which tells that the increase in this area is around 6 db's.It seems strange, but I don't have this problem with my AR9's which have side fireing woofers.That's why i'm intrested in the SAE paremetric equalizer with which I hope to pinpoint and solve what I assume is a room node (whatever that means).I just can't seem to find to much about it on the internet becase it's a vintage product.
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