Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a suprise!

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***my Sound Guru worked on placement of the EP350 a little more. He moved it to the other side of the rig, inboard of the RF speaker, and more centrally located between the RF and the AV stand. This move was dramatic, removing the "boominess" we were getting earlier. Has to do with the 5' opening into the next room, we decided. In our minds, this change put the '350 ahead of the HSU as an all-around sub as far as this showdown goes. -MF***

This is my first post here and I have owned Hsu subs for over 10 years. (their car subs as well)

Personally, I am not affected by Hsu being beaten by $V$.

The 2 comments I'd like to make about your original post are:

1 - your *PS* - finally your own sub was placed in the RIGHT position and now sounded better then the Hsu sub. A well placed VTF3 MKI (used to have one) might have sounded much better as well.

2 - I am a basshead and an audiophile (50/50) but even I know that moving a sub even an inch can make or brake a sub.
You stated that the $V$ "could be placed almost anywhere to get good sound"

Not even Wilson Audio's XS 700lbs sub is a drop it anywhere and enjoy type of woofer.

The WTF3 has received lots of awards for it's musicality so obviously the sub in your room was in the wrong place. Too bad for you.

WTF3. heh heh.

Did you like?

Allow me to retort. The SVS (can't understand the $V$ reference, they are not outrageously expensive, the ISD2 coming in at $999 with shipping) sounded great as soon as it hit the floor. A little repositioning made it sound better. Hence the statement that I could have put it almost anywhere. Your comment that "even I know blah blah blah" suggests you haven't looked around this forum or others much. Many people, for some reason, have problems placing the EP350. I apent a week getting it where I thought it sounds good, and it took even more tweaking to really dial it in. So I did, in fact, "know that moving a sub even an inch can blah blah blah." Thirdly, you assume we didn't spend any time positioning the HSU, as well as the others. That is simply not true. Fourth, all three of the subwoofers
in the showdown have won awards. Your point is thereby moot. Lastly, this was a subjective test conducted in good conscience by a newbie, 2 enthusiasts, and a professional recording engineer. We likes what we likes. My opinions are mine and mine alone and I stand by them.

Yeah, I read your post Mark, but do you have any strong feelings about the subject? Please - try and get over your reticence to express yourself.

All in all - well stated. Rather than regarding someone's generous and honest input as an opportunity to get right up in their face, I try and take something from their opinion and thank them for their time in a manner that precludes insulting them. I find that approach is generally well received and almost never gets a response along the lines of - "OH YEAH - YOUR MAMA!!!!"

So - thanks, Mark.

It's well known that SVS has shills working the online forums. I thought this was common knowledge to everyone.

Truth? In Audio Veritas?

Haiku:

Mark is a sub shill
Wool over eyes of forum
Truth will set you free

Bluestater - Enough already, you are making us blue in the face! Many of us smelled something bad yesterday, and evidently the warm water wasn't running last night because it smells just as bad today.

And I absolutely love the bit about the professional recording engineer. Absolutely brilliant.

Now give me back my freaking red stapler already.

Jimmy - Can't a guy have a little fun? Uh, Ron Stimpson be who?