Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion The Water Cooler Confession #2

Craig, I readily acknowledge your contributions here and on other boards. I admire your integrity and appreciate the way you present positive viewpoints on multiple manufacturers.

I don't post on AVS. I am not interested in crusading around the internet in defense of Axiom. If people like the speakers or this forum, good for them. If not, then as long as we treat each other with dignity and respect, I'm fine. I learn a lot here - about things unrelated to audio, and from people who sometimes don't even own Axioms.

My point is, I don't have the time or inclination to proselytize about speakers all over the place. I enjoy the relationships I've established in this forum, but feel no obligation to enter any skirmishes elsewhere.

I thank you sincerely for using your time and profile to highlight Axiom. I want them to be a successful company, as I have been well pleased by their products and services, and they employ a business model that I perceive as being consistent with my values.

However, I don't think chastising Axiom forum members for not participating at AVS appropriately respects the diverse reasons for our citizenship here. While I probably would enjoy indulging the same passions you do, I hope you will accept the notion that we are driven by different forces and fulfilled by different activities.

I do not consider myself or my behavior "sad".

Tom - A misunderstanding here. I was referring to the lack of participation HERE on the thread, not on AVS. I posted the info regarding AVS because, unlike the home theater makeover thread, which was posted ONLY on the AV123 forum, MY thoughts on Axiom's quality were posted on the most widely used and read forum (AVS).

The Axiom forum guys were quite involved in the Jack's confession, which was fine. But when presented with VERY positive info on Axiom, it was ignored (ie... The thread # 5719 and the thread on AVS) ... It just seems everyone here LIKES commenting on "bad" news, but ignores "Good" news. THAT was what I found to be sad.

BTW ... Tha M22-ti's and VP-150 are sounding REALLY good !

I would bet that a heck of a lot of us do not read AVS. If you had posted whatever you posted on AVS here, I imagine that it would have gotten more comments. But seriously, dude, you cannot take thread length as an indicator of forum attitude. Some threads get interest, some don't. Live with it.

i have pretty much stayed out of this thread. mainly cause i just dont like the general unpleasant tone that i have been reading on it.

but, for what its worth.

craig- i think it was pretty groovy of you to put jacks name 'in the hat' as it may be. regardless of whatever intentions you may, or may not have had, i think it was awful cool of you. IMO, i dont think you had ANY intentions, other than trying to do something kind for a deserving person.

jack- i hope you enjoy your new and 'improved' system to the utmost of its ability. i hope your mom has to come tell you to turn it down daily!!

rocket owner guy- kudos to you. who would have EVER thought you could get soo much $hit, for trying to do a nice thing.

i LOVE my HT system, and i totally dig my axioms.. but, for real people, if someone knocked on my door with a $5000 new stereo system, do you actually think i would be stupid enough to turn them away? every single one of you would have done the exact same thing jack did.. open the door, and let them in!!

dont even act like you wouldnt.. and dont be hating on him cause he did!

EDIT- i do not read the AV123 forum. no time..

bigjohn

I find it sad that Tom and Ken even had to say what they just did.
Properly placed, but sad.

>>and yes, I got the humor behind your saying the "AV123" bit .. )

D'oh !!

Sorry, wasn't humour, just me being a doofus. I really wasn't paying attention and DID look on the wrong board.

Understood gents. Please accept my apologies. I will "live with it" and go back to lurking status.

Craig
I'm confused.
I havent seen the thread here your talking about.
I did read the thread over at AVS and REALLY liked the way you handled it. I would have posted in that thread, except you seemed to have said everything I would have said, only better. Also GD had sent me a couple of nasty name calling PMs, so I figured it would have just given him ammo for the Axiom shill thing he was talking about.
I enjoy your posts here and look forward to hearing what you have to say about your (temporary) switchout with the M22s/VP150 h/t thing.
Did I miss that here somewhere?

bray ... This is a great forum, with a lot of guys who want to have fun. Rather than allow things to get bogged down, assuming anyone wants to "go after" my comments on AVS, I will handle it there. It seems pretty well under control on the AVS thread. It is likely best to leave things as they are. Thanks for the thoughts, too !

craig, we all deserve better than you going back to "lurking status".




well at least I do, not sure about Jack .