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Comparatively, it looks like a good price. That Denon 3805 sure is pretty powerful too. Oh, and I actually like the look of NAD. Simplicity implies business. Plus it's kinda like the reciever that walks to his own tune, not another bright reciever lemming.

As another datapoint, I paid $1299 CDN for my HK 630, on sale at FutureShop in Toronto.

For some reason in Canada HK's are way more expensive than in the US. There are lots of web based stores that ship to Canada for a lot less than you can purchase them here. Example:
HK635 ~ $750 USD = $1000 CDN with exchange and shipping
HK7300 ~ $1400 USD = $1850-1900 CDN by the time it gets to your door
http://bizrate.lycos.com/marketplace/search/search__cid--11070000,pid--279828790.html

You just got to make sure they are authorized online dealers for warrantee purposes.
http://www.harmankardon.com/online_retailers.aspx?Language=ENG&Region=USA&Country=US

I'll bet you could also do better on the Dennon's going the same route (although I've never priced them out).

The prices sound good. The duty costs I am unsure of but they will charge something.

The one important note which could become a problem is warranty service work. I don't know if all companies are the same but some state the warranty work must be carried out in country of purchase.

On average I would say that any item purchased in the states and shipped up to Canada would add around 40-50% to the price with taxes, exchange, shipping and duty charges. Like I said the duty costs I'm unsure of as the free trade rulings may save us that import cost. Not sure.

On the taxes portion of my earlier stated receiver costs did not include our 14 or 15% tax premium.

Troy

Matt, you've misunderstood; most receiver manufacturers make no "all channels driven" rating claim and aren't required to do so. The FTC reg requires that two channels be simultaneously driven at full rated power for at least five minutes continuously. This is what Denon and the majority of other makers rate, and their rating is accurate. Denon hasn't lied to you.

I am still searching for more info to compare these receivers but so far all could find was;

Denon 3805 as tested by Audioholics was 77 watts/ch all channels driven simultaneously.

With HK 7300 and NAD T773 both 110 watts/ch all channels driven simultaneously.

The Nad T773 is also rated at 2 x 145 Watts, THD 0.08%

Unsure of the exact meaning of this next rating but let me know if you have any ideas,

The NAD T773 is also rated;

IHF dynamic power:
8ohms 2 x 230 watts (23.6dbW)
4ohms 2 x 320 watts (25.05dbW)
2ohms 2 x 390 watts (25.91dbW)
simultaneous pwr output surround mode 7 x 110 watt(20.4dbW)

Just some figures but it seems that unlike Denon, the Nad is recommended and power wise more capable of running say the Axium M80ti with it's 4 ohm speaker.

Troy

Troy, the IHF dynamic power rating is one in which a 20 millisecond(thousandths of a second)sound burst is applied at half-second intervals and the maximum output capability for the 20 milliseconds is measured. This might seem to be a uselessly short period, but it's of some significance in that the beginning of a sound transient is its highest level and may be at that level for only about that length of time. Note that the 2 ohm dynamic power rating, which many manufacturers quote, in no way is meant to imply that a 2 ohm load could be driven except for that brief period. You may be making this power thing a lot more complicated than necessary, worrying over very small differences of no more than a few tens of watts. The Denon, along with the others you've considered, should be very satisfactory with the M80s in most setups. I've seen it tested at around 180 watts into 4ohms and 250 watts 4ohm IHF dynamic power.

Troy
You are correct, I did underestimate the additional costs a bit when converting a US web purchase in to CDN $ and adding the deliver and brokerage fees. I just checked the bill of an Onkyo receiver I took delivery of the other day. It cost $400 US from J&R over the web plus $50 USD for delivery and $45 CDN for brokerage fees. The grand total in CDN was $589.50 (plus UPS collected the GST dreaded for the Feds). So a 50% markup. You do have to check with the various online stores to see if their warrantees are transerable to Canada though. I found most were, but some were not.

Bottom line is a HK7300 from a US based web dealer at $1400 USD will arrive at your door for about $2100 CDN + GST. That is a savings if $1200+ CDN when the Canadian Futureshops are selling it for $3300 (almost enough for a set of M80's).

J & R has the avr-7300 on for $1299 US right now and they are an uathorized seller.

i thought the prices on his list seemed kinda high..

thats a good deal on the 7300 by comparison!!

bigjohn