Re: Another Denon setup question
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Yeah, when I first got into this I figured that because of my experience in interpreting our criminal code and, much worse, the Internal Revenue Code, that receiver manuals would be a piece of cake. Denon showed me otherwise! Maybe I'm in a masochistic mood tonight, but the comment by Hansang about possible use of digital connections encouraged me to risk looking at the 2808 manual . I found, fairly well-buried on p.60, a series of three Notes. One clearly stated that HDMI connections weren't usable for Zone 2, another one somewhat unhelpfully stated that "certain digital signals" would output noise in Zone 2 and a third stated that optical or coaxial digital inputs could be used for Zone 2, but only as to 2-channel PCM signals.
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Re: Another Denon setup question
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Denon = trial and error, it is much simplier to just try things and see what happens than to actually sift through the manual to find an answer.
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Re: Another Denon setup question
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I've said it before and I'll say it again:
If D&M Holdings hired one single guy to write really good manuals for its receivers (many sections of new models could be copied and pasted from earlier or similar models), Denon's reputation within both the experienced and newbie audio communities would increase.... easily paying that one guys' salary 10X over....
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Re: Another Denon setup question
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I heard a guy tried to hang himself with an HDMI cable after trying to decipher the Denon Manual.
Half of communication is listening. You can't listen with your mouth.
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Re: Another Denon setup question
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Thankfully, it was a non-locking HDMI cable, and it slipped right out.
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Re: Another Denon setup question
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You have to look at this from the other side. Denon has been using cryptic code to keep the unwashed out of its legend of fans for years. Why mess with the successful formula. Use the same solid amp section, stick to strong fundamentals over new bells and whistles, and "mak'em figure that sh@t out!". I have been studying the 2000 version for my AVR 3300 for years. What I have learned is that to migrant farmers from Cambodia wrote the manual. The main body was written by a farmer on the AVS forum who never actually owned a stereo. The notes/tips however, were written by a 15 year old who actually saw the AVR in a store. The one sentence tips are generally the only useful part of my manual – and that only gets you moving in the right direction. Although, if you note (on my manual at least) they leave tons of empty space for you to write notes once you discover the meaning of a function. That is awful nice of them.
Panny 3000 PJ, 118" Carada, Denon 3300, PS3, Axiom QS8, PSB 5T, B&W sub, levitating speaker wire
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Haha, Zimm. I also heard Tom Hanks wants to do a sequel to the Davinci code based on the Denon owners manual.
Half of communication is listening. You can't listen with your mouth.
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It could work. If at the end you found out the manual is really a code book for some lost religion, it would not shock Denon owners.
Panny 3000 PJ, 118" Carada, Denon 3300, PS3, Axiom QS8, PSB 5T, B&W sub, levitating speaker wire
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Re: Another Denon setup question
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Thankfully, it was a non-locking HDMI cable, and it slipped right out. Good thing he didn't have one of those monk-woven-levitating cables Zimm has. He'd have been a goner for sure.
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Re: Another Denon setup question
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What kind of cables do monks use for self-flagellation these days?
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